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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

It actually sounds like the Pub Date is working for you. The timezone offset (i.e. +930) designates how many hours off of GMT the shown time is.

So, in your example the time says 14:46:32 +0930. This means that locally your time is 2:46 PM. The +0930 means that your local time is nine and one half hours ahead of GMT (Greenwich time).

The timezone offset designator is important for people in other timezones, so they can calculate the time of the post in their local time. Anyone viewing the RSS feed in your local timezone will show 2:46 PM. If someone is viewing the RSS feed from Greenwich, it will show 5:16 AM.

Thanks for the feedback, and please post again if you still think FeedForAll isn't handling it properly.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the reply.

Are you saying that the time zone offset should be -0930 instead of +0930?

Where are you located (country)? I want to configure my system to match, and test it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry it took so long to reply. I wanted to make sure I ran all my tests correctly. Sometimes it is hard to wrap your brain around this timezone stuff.

The timezone offset is there in the Pub Dates because the RSS specification says it must be there, or else all date have to be in GMT (which would be tough for FeedForAll users to deal with).

I tried to convince people here that in order to accurately run my tests, I would have to fly to Australia for a week. No luck, so these results will have to do.

Software used:
FeedForAll Beta2 (0.0.2.0)
RssReader v1.0.88.0
FeedDemon v1.11.03

O/S:
Windows 2000 sp4

Test 1 - Adelaide time

Procedure
- Set computer's time zone to GMT +09:30 - Adelaide
- Computer clock reading 10/30/2004 at 5:05 AM
- Created a new item in an existing feed
- Pub Date was automatically set to 'Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:05:32 +0930'
- Uploaded feed to server

- Ran RssReader
- The new Item's receive date reads 10/30/2004 at 5:06 AM (Correct)
- The new Itme's Published date reads 10/30/2004 at 6:05 AM (Close. The time is 1 hour off because the
reader is having trouble with 1/2 hour time zone calcualtions)

- Ran FeedDemon
- Setup my test feed
- The new Item' Publlished date reads 10/30/2004 at 5:35 AM (Close. The time is 1/2 hour off
because the reader is having trouble with 1/2 hour time zone calculations)


- Changed computer's time zone to GMT - Greenwich
- Computer clock reading 10/29/2004 at 8:36 PM


- Ran RssReader
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item's receive date reads 10/29/2004 at 8:37 PM (Correct)
- The new Item's Published date reads 10/30/2004 at 6:05 AM (Wrong. The Pub Date was not
translated to local time)

- Ran FeedDemon
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item's Published date reads 10/29/2004 at 9:05 PM (Close. The time is translated to
local time, but the 1/2 hour time zone is throwing off the calculation by 1/2 hour.)


Test 2 - Melbourne time (whole number offset might work better with the readers)

Procedure
- Set computer's time zone to GMT +10:00 - Melbourne
- Computer clock reading 10/30/2004 at 5:35 AM
- Created a new item in an existing feed
- Pub Date was automatically set to 'Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:35:47 +1000'
- Uploaded feed to server

- Ran RssReader
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item's receive date reads 10/30/2004 at 5:35 AM (Correct)
- The new Itme's Published date reads 10/30/2004 at 3:35 PM (Way off. Not sure why.)

- Ran FeedDemon
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item' Publlished date reads 10/30/2004 at 5:35 AM (Correct)


- Changed computer's time zone to GMT - Greenwich
- Computer clock reading 10/29/2004 at 8:36 PM


- Ran RssReader
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item's receive date reads 10/29/2004 at 8:37 PM (Correct)
- The new Item's Published date reads 10/30/2004 at 6:35 AM (Wrong. The Pub Date was not
translated to local time)

- Ran FeedDemon
- Deleted the existing feed
- Re-setup my test feed
- The new Item's Published date reads 10/29/2004 at 8:35 PM (Correct)

In conclusion, I believe that FeedForAll is handling the Pub Dates correctly. FeedDemon is also handling the Pub Dates correctly (with the possible exception of the 1/2 hour time zones being off by 1/2 hour). RSSReader is not handling the time zones correctly.

Please let me know if you get different results.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Glad to see that neither of us are crazy :-)

It looks like Yahoo News uses GMT for all its Pub Dates. I guess GMT times are handled OK by RSSReader.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I will bring up your suggestion. I am assuming you would want the regular screens to show local time and the local timezone offset, but in the background when the feed is actually saved, it converts everything to GMT. This would make it transparent to the user.

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